Green fang spider needs an ID...Poss Dysdera spp?

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Ok, so i need an identification on a spider i had to collect today for the RSPCA...
Any1 able to enlighten me to what it is?...
It looks like a woodlouse spider (Dysdera) I only know of Dysdera crocata tho, and that is brown..
This spider has a beautiful, irridescent green glow on its chelicerae and is very aggressive.
It was found i a gap betweeen two houses in Wiltshire about 10ft up the wall i the cracks of brickwork.
Its not very good at climbing, unable to keep a sure hold on the takeaway carton it was kept in.
Ay clues would be great!
:D ;) :confused:

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[Gigas]

Size? reminds me of a sort of funnel web spider i received in a large cork bark order...

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I got an id a while ago, segestria florentina.. an introduced species, that i guess, must have become established from Bristol for the local population, around 40-50miles away as thats the nearest port with a confirmed population of them.
many many thanks to R Gallon for ID.
It does have that appearance, but its not a mygalomorph. heh aggressive enough though!

>>EDIT<< size is about 2 towards 3 inch.. the owner of the house said there is 1 much bigger! il have to grab that at some point too, hehe

[Gigas]

are you keeping her? what kind of webbing is she doing?

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well, at the moment, it hasnt made any webbing, i intend to fix it up with a 'wall' style back to its tank.. giving it ample nooks and crannies to hide, and web up... but at the house, the webbing is thick, and forms a tube into the wall... it trails a few triplines stemming from the hole and its front 6 legs are all facing forward slightly.... ofcourse that all it lets you see, until night. they all come out and 'chill' on the wall.. they wern't too usettled by the light, which i found unexpected.

I went again last night, and found what appears to be a male.. i can't find my 'new' camera atm either, haha.
The male doesnt appear to have the green sheen on the chelicerae like the female in the pics above

Il post some as soon as i find it
Cheers,
Cam

[Gigas]

lol maybe you can get a little breeding program up n running, but i wouldnt introduce them till youve let her make a tunnel. om sure shes one of th thing i got in my cork bark, do you know where they come from?

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Heh, breeding project?...;) no need!... they so abundat on the wall, approx 20 on the 2 conjoined houses, i read something about them being from the mediterranean. i havent got a clue for sure, as its quite vague as to where they originated.
they have been know in UK for about 100yrs, but port cities and such.
Iv yet to take the plunge into theraphosid breeding, i just feel i got too little experience, so although different, it would be good to have a try anyway with out endangering any of my T's.:eusa_think:

>>EDIT<< follow this link (if it works) for a image of the web, its pretty cool! http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/P2/P2203.HTM

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Here it is, and here the pics are:D :D

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I had to add this, as its 1 of the better pics.
Cheers

[Gigas]

He's deffinately a male alright! put the guy in the ring with tyson loking at those gloves. im sure these are what i found, but the spider was 1cm in length not inches. is it easy for you to round these guys up?

[c_strike]

Yeh, it should beeasy enough, there was a fair amount... shouldn't be a problem.
The owners kept talking about THE big one... il have to get a ladder for that 1.. they recon its huge.. much bigger than both of the 1s iv got. sounds fun!

[Theraphosidae]

Blimey, that's a bit of a mean looking spider :eek:

[mambo]

Hi, just found this thread. They're a species called Segestria florentina, they belong to a group called haplogynes which include Dysderidae, Oonopidae, etc. You found out they're aggressive then! Females cause a reaction with their bite so I wouldn't recommend handling them. They make good pets though and are easy to breed. They're one of the UK's largest species although originally they're from southern Europe. Our native Species is Segestria senoculata - small and not aggressive. I can't think if the rarer S. bavarica (also black with different markings and black chelicerae) is definitely native or not, that's intermediate in size between S. florentina and S. senoculata. Hope this helps!:biggrin:

[corpselight]

here's an link with pictures of the spider and its web:
http://www.stevehopkin.co.uk/cornishspiders/007SEGflo/

[buthus]

Looks a lot like Filistata/Kukulcania. Interesting. :blink:

[wesley flower]

i love segestria mambo has one

[buthus]

i love segestria mambo has one
Couple questions...
How large are they?
When found how close are the tube dens from each other? ..assuming they can be found in groups or at least close proximity.

Id like to play with these.

[mambo]

The largest female I found had a carapcae length of 9mm, and the leg span was 65mm. The largest male I found had a carapace length of 9mm and leg span of around 70mm but females do grow larger, with a carapace length of up to 11mm. This would indicate a leg span of around 75mm. In winter adults are less frequent but at any time of year a single wall of typically South facing aspect will have several individuals occupying tubes within several inches of each other. Alternate aspects show a widened placement between Segestria individuals, although this is less noticeable with the native S. senoculata.:biggrin:

[mambo]

i love segestria mambo has one

Forgot to say, mine is Baby Segestria - I bred her parents. A bit temperamental though! Has an 8mm carapace length and approx 53mm leg span, not adult yet. She's very fussy about her food, likes her variety!:biggrin:

[Elsa]

we have hundreds of these on a wall of my house. and inside my house. they live about 2 inches from each other and you can see there lil feet poking out in the evening. ive picked up the house ones and they dont seem to bite. deffo the same type tho. i think these are "house spiders"
edit : i half squashed a male so stuck him in a crix tub for about a week and fed and watered him as i think he had beeen in my room for ages. ate all the tiny crix i could find for him!

[Tegenaria]

Thats one cool lookin spider! Doesn't look green to me tho.

[Gigas]

Fangs are truly metalic green Lary,